Cathy and Todd discuss autonomous growth and relational growth and process why they are both essential. They also discuss the impact and passing of David Bowie, answer a listener question, and explain how to meet your goals through “temptation bundling”.

Zen Pop Parenting
Zen POP Parenting blends Gen X sensibility with mindful living, emotional awareness, and the music, movies, and moments that shaped us. Parenting is the thread that runs through it all—because whether our kids are little or grown, how we connect, communicate, and make sense of ourselves and our history matters.
Zen POP Parenting blends Gen X sensibility with mindful living, emotional awareness, and the music, movies, and moments that shaped us. Parenting is the thread that runs through it all—because whether our kids are little or grown, how we connect, communicate, and make sense of ourselves and our history matters.Listen on
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